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Well, E, let me turn your question round and ask if you have any evidence that JL ever went to America. I know of none. I'm not saying is isn't possible but I think it is unlikely. Check under 'useful links' to read my ongoing bio of JL and my further views on the subject.

Re the crest, what evidence do you have the JL used the 'broken' crest?

Regards, Charles

Hello Charles finally got around to sending you the plaque complete with broken sword but no motto.

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